{"id":44114,"date":"2018-07-03T17:33:41","date_gmt":"2018-07-03T15:33:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/?page_id=44114"},"modified":"2023-03-31T18:02:03","modified_gmt":"2023-03-31T16:02:03","slug":"basecamp-4-7-0","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/tutorials\/basecamp-4-7-0\/","title":{"rendered":"Do NOT Update to Basecamp 4.7.0 &#8211; MapInstall 4.2.0 is broken!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">MapInstall 4.2.0 is broken. You will get it by updating to Basecamp 4.7.0 - however also individual update can happen. MapInstall 4.3.2 (part of Basecamp 4.8.4) is fixed - but so far only available to Apple Mac OS x users - not for Windows. Note however that Basecamp 4.8.4 only runs okay using english - if you use a translated version be prepared for many serious bugs\/problems.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Garmin released a new version of Basecamp - 4.7.0 - in order to remove many features that were not in accordance with the GDPR regulation. Actually it's not that 4.6.2 is wrong here - it's that there were a few web services - that Garmin switched off - and those were interlinked into 4.6.2 - so that actually in 4.6.2 some functionality is not working anymore - I could on a quick check however not discover any actual difference otherwise in relation to the GDPR regulations - so 4.6.2 is no different in this regard to 4.7.0 - well and new privacy page\/EULA of course).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">The big problem is that Basecamp 4.7.0 also ships an updated version of Garmin MapInstall - and that version is broken in so far that it does not reliably\/correctly send any maps in .img format anymore! This also applies to original older garmin maps.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">On Windows instead of the actual map - only the overview map is sent - so you will have a nearly \"empty\" map. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">On Mac OS x the problem with MapInstall 4.2.0 is that it will often crash while sending maps. This got fixed with MapInstall 4.3.2<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Switch to the relevant tab for information on how to downgrade to Basecamp 4.6.2\/4.6.3 on Windows respectively Mac OS x<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"su-tabs su-tabs-style-default su-tabs-mobile-stack\" data-active=\"1\" data-scroll-offset=\"0\" data-anchor-in-url=\"no\"><div class=\"su-tabs-nav\"><span class=\"\" data-url=\"\" data-target=\"blank\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\">Basecamp 4.6.2 - Windows<\/span><span class=\"\" data-url=\"\" data-target=\"blank\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\">Basecamp - Apple Mac OS x<\/span><\/div><div class=\"su-tabs-panes\"><div class=\"su-tabs-pane su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\" data-title=\"Basecamp 4.6.2 - Windows\"><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">If you are a Windows user and upgraded to 4.7.0 you have 4 choices:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>a)<\/strong> Use the gmapsupp.img Downloads instead (not available for Europe or Asia continent map however, but for all other maps): <a href=\"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/download\/gmapsupp\/\">https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/download\/gmapsupp\/<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>b)<\/strong> Only downgrade MapInstall to 4.0.4: In order to Downgrade first uninstall MapInstall via Windows system uninstall, then simply go to\u00a0C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Garmin\\MapInstall\\ folder - then delete all the content of the folder but not of subfolders. Especially leave the \"Maps\" subfolder. Then Install MapInstall 4.0.4 - Download from here:\u00a0<a title=\"MapInstall_404.exe\" href=\"https:\/\/www8.garmin.com\/software\/MapInstall_404.exe\">http:\/\/www8.garmin.com\/software\/MapInstall_404.exe<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>c)<\/strong> Downgrade to Basecamp v 4.6.2: it can be found here:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/garmin-basecamp.software.informer.com\/4.6\/\">Garmin Basecamp 4.6<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">ATTENTION - you need to first uninstall Garmin Basecamp, Garmin MapInstall, Garmin Express, and any other Garmin Software via Windows \"Add or Remove Software\" except Garmin Mapsource (if you have Mapsource installed, do not delete it because you might lose data saved in Mapsource). As the user data of Garmin Basecamp, Garmin Express or Garmin Homeport is saved in a separate database - you will not lose it.Then Install Basecamp 4.6.2.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">If you simply install 4.6.2 without uninstalling Garmin Basecamp and Garmin Express, Mapinstall will not be downgraded. Alternatively if you are afraid about losing data - you could first delete the content from\u00a0C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Garmin\\MapInstall\\ folder (but not of subfolders) - then ONLY uninstall Garmin Basecamp via Windows system \"Add or remove programs\" - then Install Basecamp 4.6.2.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>d)<\/strong> Use the plain old Garmin Mapsource for sending maps. Yes it still works if you know what to do - just note that it does not check any maps installed - so do not send maps twice. Also it cannot like MapInstall overcome the 4GB limit by splitting up maps that you are sending. Else of course it cannot correctly show the contourlines - but sending maps will work. Mapsource 6.16.3 can be downloaded here:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.freedownloadmanager.org\/Windows-PC\/Garmin-MapSource.html\">Garmin-MapSource<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>e)<\/strong> download the Mac OS x version of all OpenMTBMaps\/velomaps in .gmap format. You can install them by placing them into the C:\\ProgramData\\GARMIN\\maps\\mtbCOUNTRY.gmap respectively C:\\ProgramData\\GARMIN\\maps\\veloCOUNTRY.gmap and better read the OS x tutorial too: <a href=\"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/tutorials\/install-maps-mac-osx\/\">https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/tutorials\/install-maps-mac-osx\/<\/a> respectively for VeloMap users here:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.velomap.org\/tutorials\/install-maps-mac-osx\/\">https:\/\/www.velomap.org\/tutorials\/install-maps-mac-osx\/<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>f)<\/strong> Use the create_gmapsupp_img_with_mkgmap.bat Script - this will only work for Maps &lt;4GB however. And you can only install full maps. It is found in the map Installation folder. It requires Java JDK installation and java added to Windows path.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Alternatively you can use the create_gmapsupp_img.bat Script - however mind that address search is not possible then.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Actually right now only a part of the overview map is sent - it would be nice if Garmin could send the overview maps in general too - as right now they are only used on Desktop. Would actually speed up the GPS devices a bit - especially if you have no activated Basemap on your device.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Restore Tracks\/Routes that you created in Basecamp 4.7.0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">If you chose to downgrade Basecamp and already created tracks\/routes with 4.7.0 you will need to restore them. While updating\/downgrading does not delete any of your data - routes\/tracks that you planned with Basecamp 4.7.0 will not appear in Basecamp 4.6.2 after downgrade - only routes\/tracks that you had planned before the 4.7.0 update will show up.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">To solve that go to:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">C:\\Users\\YOUR_USERNAME\\AppData\\Roaming\\Garmin\\BaseCamp\\Database\\<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">(note AppData is a hidden folder - you may have to enable windows file explorer to show hidden files and folders)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Now you rename folder 4.6 to 4.6.backup and 4.7 to 4.7.backup<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Copy folder 4.7.backup and Rename it to 4.6<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>In Case of Problems with Reinstalling Basecamp - downgrading MapInstall:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Deinstall All Garmin tools\/programs via Windows \"Change or Remove a Program\". Then delete the Garmin Folder\u00a0 in \"C:\\Program Files (x86)\". Then Reinstall all Garmin tools\/Programs and make sure to use old enough versions (as linked here).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">IMHO you do not need to clean the registry of any Garmin entry, nor do you need to remove any Garmin folders that are somewhere else then Program Files folders (so far all Garmin tools are x86 and not 64 bit - it's possible this will change in future - so then also delete Garmin folder inside \"C:\\Program Files\".<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/div>\n<div class=\"su-tabs-pane su-u-clearfix su-u-trim\" data-title=\"Basecamp - Apple Mac OS x\"><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">You can still downgrade to 4.6.3 for the missing functionality. However MapInstall 4.3.2 or later\u00a0 is fixed (at least with the download directly from Garmin or from here - the Mac Appstore version sometimes does not update MapInstall) - so just make sure not to use Basecamp 4.7. and if you upgrade to Basecamp 4.8.4 or later.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>You can Either Downgrade\/Upgrade MapInstall only, Or Downgrade Mapinstall and Basecamp<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">While windows users have good alternatives to Garmin MapInstall - on OS x the only real alternative is to use mkgmap.jar to create gmapsupp.img files. That is not so easy to do and requires Java JDK properly configured. However MapInstall 4.3.2 is fixed - so either downgrade to Basecamp 4.6.3 or upgrade to Basecamp 4.8.4 or later.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>a)<\/strong> Use the gmapsupp.img Downloads instead (not available for Europe or Asia continent map however, but for all other maps): <a href=\"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/download\/gmapsupp\/\">https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/download\/gmapsupp\/<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>b)<\/strong> Upgrade to Basecamp 4.8.4 or later: <a href=\"https:\/\/www8.garmin.com\/support\/download_details.jsp?id=4449\">https:\/\/www8.garmin.com\/support\/download_details.jsp?id=4449<\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Attention - best get it directly from Garmin or from here - and not via Appstore. I have heard from people that the version from the Appstore only updated Basecamp but the got stuck with MapInstall 4.2.0 instead of 4.3.2<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>c)<\/strong> Downgrade to Basecamp 4.6.3 - To do so first Uninstall Garmin Basecamp 4.7.0 Then make sure that also Garmin MapInstall installation folder is removed\/empty - If not uninstall all other Garmin software too. Then install Basecamp 4.6.3.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>d)<\/strong> You could try to simply Install Garmin MapInstall 4.1.1. - I'm not sure if this works by just executing the installer. I think not. That means you first have to uninstall Mapinstall 4.2.0 - then Install only MapInstall 4.1.1 \/ MapManager 4.1.1. That way you could keep Basecamp 4.7.0 but I don't know why you would like to do so as Basecamp 4.7.0 is only a regression.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>Basecamp for OS x can be downloaded here:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.garmin.com\/en-US\/software\/basecamp\/\">Current Version Garmin Basecamp<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/macdownload.informer.com\/garmin-basecamp\/4.6\/\">Garmin Basecamp 4.6.3 for Mac<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"> (here you find all Garmin Tools for\u00a0 Mac OS x for download - if you miss something else)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><strong>MapInstall and MapManager for Mac can be downloaded here:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www8.garmin.com\/support\/download_details.jsp?id=3825\">Garmin MapInstall for Mac OS<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/macdownload.informer.com\/garmin-mapinstall\/4.1\/\">Garmin MapInstall 4.1.1. for Mac OS<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<\/p>\n<p>MapInstall 4.2.0 is broken. You will get it by updating to Basecamp 4.7.0 &#8211; however also individual update can happen. MapInstall 4.3.2 (part of Basecamp 4.8.4) is fixed &#8211; but so far only available to Apple Mac OS x users &#8211; not for Windows. Note however that Basecamp 4.8.4 only runs okay using english &#8211; if you use a translated version be prepared for many serious bugs\/problems.<\/p>\n<p>Garmin released a new version of Basecamp &#8211; 4.7.0 &#8211; in order to remove many features that were not in accordance with the GDPR regulation. Actually it&#8217;s not that 4.6.2 is wrong here &#8211; it&#8217;s that there were a few web services &#8211; that Garmin switched off &#8211; and those were interlinked into 4.6.2 &#8211; so that actually in 4.6.2 some functionality is not working anymore &#8211; I could on a quick check however not discover any actual difference otherwise in relation to the GDPR regulations &#8211; so 4.6.2 is no different in this regard to 4.7.0 &#8211; well and new privacy page\/EULA of course).<\/p>\n<p>The big problem is that Basecamp 4.7.0 also ships an updated version of Garmin MapInstall &#8211; and that version is broken in so far that it does [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":144,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-44114","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry","odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/44114","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44114"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/44114\/revisions"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/144"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/openmtbmap.org\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44114"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}