The map updates brings no big differences. Only some small changes in POI layout (mainly cities). This time again all maps are updated.

As for the long awaited lines style-file. When I started OpenMTBMap.org my main intention was to push forward Mtbikers to use and participate in OSM. This is still my main intention. Currently IMHO OpenMTBMap are the only Garmin maps with proper Autorouting for cyclists and mtbikers as well as hikers. It took a lot of hours try & error to get autorouting work reasonably well. All other OSM interpretations that are widespread don't offer nearly as good autorouting for cyclists (be it maps from "DE:All in One, User:Radfahrer or Computerteddy). Therefore currently many non mtbikers are using the OpenMTBMaps because they offer best autorouting and most extensive mapping features needed for orientation. This is good in my eyes for mtbikers because normal cyclists or hikers get to see maps from a mountainbike-centric perspective and help us push trough relevant ideas and needs better in OSM.

The layout of the OpenMTBMaps is not the prettiest and difficult to understand for newcomers. [...]]]> Ci spiace, ma questo articolo è disponibile soltanto in English e Deutsch.

The map updates brings no big differences. Only some small changes in POI layout (mainly cities). This time again all maps are updated.

As for the long awaited lines style-file. When I started OpenMTBMap.org my main intention was to push forward Mtbikers to use and participate in OSM. This is still my main intention. Currently IMHO OpenMTBMap are the only Garmin maps with proper Autorouting for cyclists and mtbikers as well as hikers. It took a lot of hours try & error to get autorouting work reasonably well. All other OSM interpretations that are widespread don't offer nearly as good autorouting for cyclists (be it maps from "DE:All in One, User:Radfahrer or Computerteddy). Therefore currently many non mtbikers are using the OpenMTBMaps because they offer best autorouting and most extensive mapping features needed for orientation. This is good in my eyes for mtbikers because normal cyclists or hikers get to see maps from a mountainbike-centric perspective and help us push trough relevant ideas and needs better in OSM.

The layout of the OpenMTBMaps is not the prettiest and difficult to understand for newcomers. In my opinion however after one has used it for some time, and remembers the map legend more or less it gives the quickest and most extensive knowledge about the properties of a way or area. This has one drawback, it takes some time and first time users will at the beginning be overwhelmed and would prefer a more traditional map layout. (for example a slightly grey map background would look nicer on a big pc monitor, but offer less contrast outside in the nature on your GPS, less flashy colors would make the map more harmonic, but in the end offer less information and be more difficult to read in sunlight). If other maps could copy the rules for autorouting many newcomers woud due to resistance to learn, or time needed for being able to understand the potential of the map layout of the OpenMTBMaps, use those maps. Therefore I have been hesistant to publish the lines style-file.

By now there are so many users of the OpenMTBMaps worldwide that I think it is time to opensource the lines-file, so that other people who want to invest some time to improve routing on their maps can do this and bring forward maps for other purposed based on OSM. Be it maps with autorouting destined for motorbikers, or be it maps with autorouting specialised for race cycling. Therefore I will publish the lines style-file (using some versioning software like Trac).

However only after mtb:scale and mtb:scale:uphill as well as incline are integrated into main JOSM presets for pathes (and best also tracks) WITHOUT the need to resort to a plugin or modified JOSM version. I personally find the plugin system for JOSM too difficult for beginners and also to error prone. Currently the in my eyes pretty useless sac:scale (useless because many people using it don't really understand the difficulty associated to the vaules) as what is labelled alpine_hiking in one region might be a lot easier than demanding_mountain_hiking on the next path. This so error prone sac:scale occupies 6 lines in the "Ways" Preset. I have not been able to convince "christeck" to implement mtb:scale / mtb:scale:uphill into JOSM (see here: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3896 ).

So now it is your turn. If you get mtb:scale, mtb:scale:uphill and incline into the path preset (or a seperate line called mtb_ways or similar) into JOSM then I will publish the lines style-file (license: CCBYSA 3.0 by OpenMTBMap.org). I know this is no easy task to do, but if "christeck" notices that many people want to have mtb difficulty presets inside JOSM, I am sure he will integrate it. So your best bet if you want to have the complete style file to build maps with the same or similar features and good autorouting yourself, is to put a comment here: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3896 and support my request to get the changes beginner mtb users of OSM need for easier tagging into OSM. If 100 people drop a comment for support of mtb features regarding JOSM in the next week (there are alone over 600 users receiving the above text in their "OpenMTBMap newsletter" I am sure we can move one step further in our quest to build opensource maps for mtbikers.

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Benvenuti su OpenMTBMap.org - Scaricate la mappa più popolare al mondo per la mountainbike! Oltre 4000 utenti al giorno visitano il sito per informarsi e scaricare le mappe che li guideranno sui sentieri più belli, invece di perdersi. Ecco spiegato perchè dovete credere nelle OpenMTBmaps:

• 6 Layout Differenti: Cinque layout ad alto contrasto, ottimizzati per i differenti GPS Garmin e uno per l'uso al Computer. Guarda la Legenda della Mappa o screenshots (computer) o screenshots (GPS)

• Tipi di Strade/Sentieri? Chiara differenziazione tra tutti i tipi di strade. Le mappe forniscono informazioni utili per biker/escursionisti. Per es. frecce sulle discese dei sentieri ripidi.

• Informazioni Rilevanti per MTB/Escursionisti/Ciclisti come fontane di acqua potabile, rifugi e punti di riferimento... Le piste ciclabili e i sentieri vengono visualizzate in modo chiaro insieme (e non al posto) alle strade, differenziandole per colore, per tipo e in ordine di importanza.

• Navigazione - Calcolo Rotta Avanzato per MTB, ciclisti ed escursionisti. Potete pianificare le vostre rotte e tracce sul vostro computer usando la stessa mappa che avete sui vostri GPS. Tutte le mappe sono disponibili con Ricerca Indirizzo

• Facile installazione su Garmin Mapsource, Garmin Basecamp o Qlandkarte GT per pianificare i vostri viaggi e tracce sul vostro computer.

• Curve di Livello basate sui dati eccellenti di viewfinderpanoramas.org. Una qualità maggiore nelle regioni montuose rispetto alle SRTM3 usate normalmente

• Participare? Mappe Incomplete o sbagliate? Potete participare ed aggiungere le mancanze su OSM. Io aggiorno le mappe ogni settimana, così ogni settimana le mappe diventano migliori e più complete! Unitevi agli oltre 300.000 mappatori in tutto il mondo per aggiungere strade o correggere gli errori da soli.

• Buona Documentazione perchè tutto quello che volete e di cui avete bisogno per poter usare le mappe si trova qui su OpenMTBMap.org. Come Iniziare e Scarica le mappe

• VeloMap: Se pedalate principalmente su strada o usate una bici da corsa, vi fornisco le mappe simili VeloMap. Le VeloMap sono orientate alle strade adatte alle biciclette e alle piste ciclabili. Visualizzano meno dettagli e sono veloci da capire.

Chi può usare le OpenMTBMap?

Le mappe offerte qui al momento sono  usate principalmente dagli utenti sui GPS Garmin e dai mountain bikers in generale, ma non è necessario avere un GPS Garmin per utilizzarle. Qlandkarte GT, un visualizzatore di mappe opensource e disponibile gratuitamente, può visualizzarle in tutti i modi, e anche se non avete un GPS Garmin o non avete acquistato una mappa Garmin potete installare il programma Garmin Mapsource sul vostro computer e divertirvi a calcolare rotte come non avete mai fatto prima. Oltre ai programmi di terze parti come Glopus o Garmin Mobile XT possono essere usati per visualizzare le mappe OpenMTBMaps sui vostri PDA o telefoni.

Informazioni su OpenMTBMap.org

Ho iniziato a lavorare ad OSM perchè ho intravisto la possibilità, per la prima volta nella storia, di avere delle mappe fatte dai mtbbikers per i mtbbikers. Tuttavia non c'era ancora una struttura per classificare le strade, così ho sviluppato il tag mtb:scale così come molti altri attributi per OSM. Ma difficilmente la gente li usava, così ho iniziato a creare mappe che visualizzavano questi attributi, e dopo pochi mesi ho creato OpenMTBMap.org per rendere le mappe scaricabili da tutti.

Attualmente circa 2000-5000 visitatori unici frequentano OpenMTBMap.org tutti i giorni (misurati tramite Google Analytics).

Openstreetmap ci dà la possibilità di creare veramente delle mappe orientate per la mtb – come nessun altro fornitore abbia mai fatto. Quindi ti chiedo di partecipare al progetto come hanno già fatto più di 300.000 persone nel mondo!

Using the "avoid toll roads" option in your GPS/Mapsource you switch to bicycle mode. I don't recommend setting any other avoidances! Bicyclemode omits footways where bicycles are not allowed and skips tracks with tracktype=grade3 or bigger. (of course also any way with mtb:scale=1 or higher is skipped or mtb:scale:uphill=3 or higher, also sac_scale prohibits bicycle usage in bicycle "avoid toll roads"). In German this is option is called "Mautstraßen vermeiden"

You can play around which mode setting (default and proved working quite well is car/motorcycle) gives you best results. Oneway streets are not yet included because setting the rules in mkgmap is a bit buggy. In Mapsource there is no big difference between the modes. Once oneway streets are implemented you will be able to avoid them using the pedestrian setting. I will only implement oneway rules for primary/secondary/tertiary streets because usually in town I am quicker disrespecting oneway and often bicycles are allowed to go against the direction anyhow (this is not easily implementable [...]]]> Okay after the last mountainbike maps suffered from severe breakage of autorouting over longer distances, I push through new maps tonight. Switzerland, Austrian and Italy are already updated, other maps follow suit.

Just a reminder:

Using the "avoid toll roads" option in your GPS/Mapsource you switch to bicycle mode. I don't recommend setting any other avoidances! Bicyclemode omits footways where bicycles are not allowed and skips tracks with tracktype=grade3 or bigger. (of course also any way with mtb:scale=1 or higher is skipped or mtb:scale:uphill=3 or higher, also sac_scale prohibits bicycle usage in bicycle "avoid toll roads"). In German this is option is called "Mautstraßen vermeiden"

You can play around which mode setting (default and proved working quite well is car/motorcycle) gives you best results. Oneway streets are not yet included because setting the rules in mkgmap is a bit buggy. In Mapsource there is no big difference between the modes. Once oneway streets are implemented you will be able to avoid them using the pedestrian setting. I will only implement oneway rules for primary/secondary/tertiary streets because usually in town I am quicker disrespecting oneway and often bicycles are allowed to go against the direction anyhow (this is not easily implementable right now due to buggy rules).

Please comment or use one of the common forum threads how your autorouting works and which mode is giving you best results. You can also comment on the maps here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Extremecarver

-- Deutsch Kurzfassung:

Da das Autorouting zu krass abgebrochen hat, und ich dies durch ein paar Updates halbwegs in den Griff bekommen hab (ich musste allerdings die Prioritaet von nicht Fahrrad/MTB Straßen dafuer leicht anheben) gibts heute Nacht neue Updates.

Noch einmal als Erinnerugn:
Fuer den Fahrradfahr Modus "Mautstraßen vermeiden" aktivieren. Alle anderen Vermeidungen sollten deaktviert bleiben (mit Vermeide Autobahn zerstoert ihr das Routing, auf keinen Fall aktivieren). Ich hab generell im Modus Auto/Motorrad die beste Erfahrung gemacht. Ihr koennt aber auch Fahrrad oder Fußgaenger ausprobieren.
Schreibt eure Erfahrungen mit dem Fahrrad oder Fußgaenger Modus (bzw anderen Modi falls diese besser/schlechter funktionieren) als Kommentar hier oder in den bekannten Forenthreads rein. Oder auf meiner OSM Wiki Seite hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Extremecarver

Qlandkarte GT however will display the Overlays. Note that because I don't want to increase the tile number too much tracktype will only be shown outside of tunnels and bridges (here you should not need tracktype anyhow). And sac:scale will be shown in preference to oneway streets (an unlikely combination too).

Installation of Qlandkarte GT in Ubuntu x64 did run very smooth BTW - took me bout 15 minutes. For instructions read on here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/QLandkarte

While I got Qlandkarte GT running on Windows XP 32bit after the hassle of adding gdal to system path (I used the free tool Redmond Path for this as for all of the progs I have to add to Win system path) which is not done in standard installation (Qlandkarte complained on startup that gdal.fw cannot be found), I have not yet suceeded in Windows [...]]]> Well thanks to Qlandkarte GT it is now possible to view even more information from OSM on your computer screen. I will add tracktype and sac:scale information to the OpenMTBMaps. There is one catch. While the additional information will be displayed on most GPS units (at least on Vista HCx and 60CSx) - it will not be shown in Mapsource.

Qlandkarte GT however will display the Overlays. Note that because I don't want to increase the tile number too much tracktype will only be shown outside of tunnels and bridges (here you should not need tracktype anyhow). And sac:scale will be shown in preference to oneway streets (an unlikely combination too).

Installation of Qlandkarte GT in Ubuntu x64 did run very smooth BTW - took me bout 15 minutes. For instructions read on here:  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/QLandkarte

While I got Qlandkarte GT running on Windows XP 32bit after the hassle of adding gdal to system path (I used the free tool Redmond Path for this as for all of the progs I have to add to Win system path) which is not done in standard installation (Qlandkarte complained on startup that gdal.fw cannot be found), I have not yet suceeded in Windows 7 RC x64. I think the problem is that fwtools is only compatible with 32 bit systems. Will try compiling the necessary programs by hand. (yikes).

Now for the autorouting. I have heard and experienced myself many complaints that routing over larger distances with the maps of 10.05 did not work over distances as small as 5-10km inside cities (contrary it worked pretty well on the countryside). Even though the routes that did calculate where really nice IMHO, i will try to get the routing working for longer distances again with the next map updates. This is a bit of conservative step back which I regret cause routes on the countryside were so nice with 10.05 maps but I will have to increase the priority of normal roads a bit.

I will likely too implement one way streets but recommend using the GPS or Mapsource in Emergency mode if route calculation fails because of oneway streets (Emergency setting is quite nice insofar it behaves more or less like car/motorcycle but disrespects any turn and access restrictions)