Map Legend and Layouts

Map Legend GeneralMap Layout/Style

Polylines (Highways):

 

Quick guide to the colors used for ways and tracks:

Red=tracks which are wide enough for a car to pass. Unpaved - the smaller/more dottet the segments of the line are - the worse/less even the surface.

Black/Grey/: Cycleway or paved track.

Green: Singletrail / small trail with mtb classification (mtb:scale) - from 0 easy to 5 (good trial skill needed) - again the smaller the segments - the more difficult

Brown: Path - usually rated according to the Swiss Alpine Club hiking trail classification. Again - the smaller the segments - the more difficult.

In general for brown/red/ ways: If a way is not rated for difficulty - it will be shown as continuous line.

 

Modern left - Legacy right:

Main Highways "trad" layoutMain highways "clas" layout

 

Ways with mtb attributes or sac_scale (clickable thumbnails for full size)

Ways with mtb attributes - "clas" layout

 

Additional ways and lines (clickable thumbnails for full size)

Additional ways and lines - "trad" layoutAdditonal ways and lines "clas" layout

 

Points of Interest

Restaurants and Shopping
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Sport and Tourism
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Municipal and other POI

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Areas

Landuses:

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Sport and Public Places:

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Natural and Tourism

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Abbreviations and Highway Attributes:

M12 / Mn34 -- the first number is the mtb:scale, the second number the mtb:scale:uphill. "n" stands for the way being part of a mtb route/network. See:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale
G1 -- tracktype=grade1 See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tracktype

Note however - that I also map the keys smoothness and surface to tracktype G value. So I try to get the best value - also if it may contradict with the actual value for tracktype.

T2 -- sac_scale=T2 (mountain hiking) See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale

Tv6=Trail_Visibility (6=no, 5=horrible,4=bad,3=intermediate) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility

 

Xbk --bicycle=no

 

Routes
See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/relation:route

  • Cn= Cycleroute / Cycle Network
  • Mn=Mountainbike Route
  • Hn=Hiking Route / Hiking Network
  • Wn=Walking Route / Walking Network

Differentiated by importance as follows (for Mountain Bike Routes as example) - if classified. If not it`s simply Mr.

  • Imn = International
  • Nmn = National
  • Rmn = Regional
  • Tmn = Touristic
  • Lmn = Local
  • Mn= unclassified Mountainbike Route

Rmn34 would be = Regional Mountainbike Route, mtb:scale=3, mtb:scale:uphill=4

Lmn3. = Local Mountain Bike Route, mtb:scale=3, mtb:scale:uphill=unknown.

 

Highways

See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway

Pri=primary / primary_link
Sec=secondary
Ter=tertiary
Cw=cycleway
Min=minor
Unsf=unsurfaced
Uncl=unclassified
Living=living_street
Pdstrn=pedestrian
Trk=track
Pth=path
Ft=footway
Fp=footpath
Brdlw=bridleway
Rd=road
Byw=byway
Ser=service

 

Cyclelane/Cycletrack

See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway

Bklane=cycleway=lane
Bktrk - cycleway=track
Opp - cycleway=opposite
Opptrk - cycleway=opposite_track

 

Note: the first letter is always capital - I dropped proper usage of small/capital letters because it creates problems on quite a few older Garmin devices.

 

The OpenMTBMaps and VeloMaps come with several different layouts/styles (also known as .typ-files)

 

Modern or legacy layout: 

 "Legacy" typfiles use the higher contrast blue/green/red/yellow street differentiation - while "modern" layouts use a lower contrast orange-yellow road differentiation. The philosophy behind this is that on legacy typfiles you know exactly what kind of classification a street has, while the modern layout there is a more fluid approach from motorways to small roads that subconciously tells you the road class. Google maps is a prime example of modern type of layouts - while typical German road maps are the inspiration for the legacy layout.  Modern layouts give you a better overview when looking at the map on a big screen/display as it's easier for the brain to class importance in an instant  and looks nicer/calmer - while legacy layout gives a more exact classification but needs more time to process the information and looks less nice. 

 

Thin, Classic or Wide?

The width of the layout should be chosen according to the DPI of your device and preferences. As most currently sold garmin devices (except smartwatches) are optimal in my eyes for the Wide layouts - special layouts like, winter, hiking, easy or topo are only available in wide style.

In general the min width of roads is. Thin 2px, Classic 3px, Wide 4px, and Extra Wide for Fenix devices 5px.

 

Which .typ file should I choose - Sorted from Thin to Extra Wide?

Thin - optimized for GPSMap 60/62/64/65 (2px small roads/trails/tracks)
*mthn --- Thin layout - like Classic legacy but even thinner lines. For low resolution Garmin GPS devices like GPSMaps series.

 

Medium width - - optimized for Vista/Legend/edge_705 (3px small roads/trails/tracks)
*clas --- Classic series - red/yellow streets - rather thin for lower DPI Garmin devices
*cllg --- Classic Legacy - Like above optimized for Vista/Legend/edge_705 series - blue-green-red-yellow streets

 

Wide - optimized for Oregon/Colorado/edge x30/edge x40/GPSMap 66/67 and more modern devices. (4px small roads/trails/tracks)
*wide --- high contrast layout, like classic but with white forest and wider streets/lines - orange-yellow streets
*wdlg --- same as above - but blue-green-red-yellow streets

*easy --- Simple Layout with (nearly) no additional info over traditional topo maps. Same width as Classic. No add. lines for (mtb:scale(:uphill)/cycleway=*/sac_scale)
*hike --- Similar to easy but fully optimized for hiking.
*wint --- Winter - like hiking layout - but optimized for Winter Sports (does not show mtb/bicycle informations). Shows sledge routes, nordic skiing and skitouring routes.
*topo --- Simple topopgraphical map style - Easy to understand - high contrast.

*trad --- Mapsource/Basecamp/Qlandkarte_GT/Desktop --- General big screen/resolution layout. It is the easiest to understand layout and optimized for big screens (800x600 or bigger). Street colors similar to google maps. Medium contrast - therefore bad for GPS use.

 

Extra Wide - for 64 colour Display of Fenix watches / watches with MIP Display (5px small roads/trails/tracks)
*fenx --- Fenix - similar to Wide Legacy but optimized for Fenix series 5/6/7 watches which can only show 64 colours

 

So below screenshots of all layouts on a desktop to show the difference:

General OpenMTBMap

The classic Layout. The only difference to the wide layout is the thinner streets. Optimal for lower DPI garmin devices.

Classic_Layout

 

The Classic legacy - notice the different colours of the main streets/highways.

Classic Legacy

 

The Wide layout - same as classic but all lines are wider - for higher DPI devices

Wide Layout

 

The Wide legacy - again different main street colours

Wide Legacy Layout

 

The easy layout - it doesn't include things like cyclelanes/cycletracks that run parralel to other roads, or mtb:scale:uphill difficulty. Otherwise identical to Wide.

Easy Layout

 

The hiking Layout - more details about the difference on the MTB specific screenshot in the next section. The pathes are not colored according to MTB difficulty but according to hiking difficulty. It does not show cycling routes and mtb routes but only very thin so if you want to avoid mtb routes you can, walking, foot routes are shown prominently. Also of course no other mountainbike/cycling specific information.

Hiking Layout

 

The Simple Topographical map layout - it is more simplified vs the hiking layout . Also it shows hiking, mtb, and cycling routes all only very thin/not prominent. For example there is no differentiation between highway=track / highway=service & tracktype=grade1/tarmac and highway=residential roads.

Simple Topo Layout

The Desktop layout - the colors and features/objects are similar to Wide  but it has much less contrast. So it is much more pleasing to the eye on a big screen. However on your GPS device it will be much harder to read. You can use it if you always follow tracks (not routes) and want them to pop out more.

Desktop layout

 

The winter layout - same as easy but additonaly shows sledge trails, nordic skiing  trails and so on. Normal ski-slopes are also visible in the other layouts as they exist all year round. This layout has many things that are only visible in winter.

Winter Layout

 

The Fenix layout - this is here only for completion - it uses the best colours for the 64 colour display of the Fenix 5/6/7 series - however note on your watch they will look quite differently to the screenshot here. The features shown are a bit reduced as the display size is very small so to show the most important things for mtb / cycling only. It has very wide lines 

Fenix Layout

OpenMTBMap Winter_special

Notice the dashed lines showing Nordic skiing slopes in Ramsau am Dachstein which is famous for nordic skiing. Also shows sledge trails or some more features that are only visible in winter and removed for summer. Ski Slopes are usually well visible in summer too so visible in all openmtbmap layouts.

The blue dots for example are winter hiking trails - only existing in winter (usually a groomed trail on a field).

Winter Layout OpenMTBMap

OpenMTBMap MTB vs Easy vs Hiking speical

An example to show the difference of the Hiking layout not showing features for mtbikers to make the map easier but also usable for hikers.

First the wide layout with all features for mtbiking

Wide Layout

 

now the a bit reduced easy layout (notice the mtb:scale:uphill information is missing)

Easy Layout

 

now the Hiking layout (hiking routes are black dashed):

Hiking Layout

Inner City example

OpenMTBMap Standard features layout (as on Wide layout) - vs the Easy layout - and later VeloMap inner city example

OpenMTBMap Wide layout

 

vs the easy layout missing the blue arrows for against oneway cyclelane on the center road. Also the living streets is shown as a normal residential street in the easy layout - I left out some not so important features and simplified them. Also the POI are less visible for shops and restaurants uncluttering the map.

OpenMTBMap Easy Layout

 

VeloMap Wide layout - nearly identical inside the city to the OpenMTBMap wide layout. The big difference to the OpenMTBMap is that some footways/pathes that are likely not allowed to be cycled, or not good surface are only shown very thinly. So better for commuting/riding fast.

This is of course much more distinct if in some forest/mountain. Note it also misses the cycle route, that is because I used an older map for this screenshot when the cycle route was not yet built/present in Openstreetmap.

VeloMap Wide Layout

 

The VeloMap Wide Easy Layout - same as the OpenMTBMap Easy layout - removed the cyclelanes/cycletracks parallel to roads, and simplified some things like living streets.

VeloMap Wide Easy

 

The VeloMap Racing / Road Bike Layout - the difference will be more visible outside cities to the easy layout. - note previously it did not show buildings. I re included them because you now can remove the buildings alltogether (do not install them, or use the gmapsupp.img downloads instead of sending via MapInstall)

Race Layout Velomap

General VeloMap

The Velo Layout - thinner lines for low DPI devices. Street colours similar to google maps (though a bit more orange/red to still see differences in size of streets)

Velo Layout

 

The Velo Legacy Layout - Germany style street colours for very easy differentiation of the main streets. Same width as Velo.

Velo Legacy Layout

 

The Velo Wide Layout - same as Velo but wider streets for newer/higher DPI Garmin devices

Velo Wide Legacy

 

Wide Easy Layout - does not include cycletracks or cyclelanes that are parallel to streets and some more for most not important things.

Look further down to the Inner City section to see the actual difference.

Wide Easy

 

The Road Bike / Racing layout - this leaves out many things not interesting for a road biker to quicker identify the streets useful for road biking. Note that if you do not want the buildings - then leave out the buildings layer (buildings add too much clutter for road biking in my opinion)

Racing / Road Bike Layout

 

The Simple Topo - Simple Topographical map layout. It is simplified to not show any information that a normal topographical map would also not show. So for example highway=track & tracktype=grade 1 (tarmac) is shown the same as highway=residential. Service roads are also shown like residential roads. It's the easiest to understand and get used layout. Cycle routes are only shown thinly - not prominently like in other layouts.

Simple Topo Layout

 

The Desktop Layout - Same as Wide but much less contrast. This is much nicer to look at on big screens / desktop but not very useful on your Garmin GPS device - except if you want the map to be low contrast to have higher contrast for the pink colour of the GPX tracks.

Desktop Layout

 

The Fenix Layout - heavily reduced and colour adapted layout for the small displays of Fenix 5/6/7 watches which can only show 64 colours. It looks actually a bit different on your watch than the screenshot - though also differs a lot due to angle/sun/backlight

Fenix Layout

VeloMap vs OpenMTBMap

Sometimes people ask me should I use OpenMTBMap or VeloMap - let's put it clearly. If you are commuting or road biking or recreational cycling the VeloMap is much quicker and easier to read - because it has way less information. Here I show an example without contourlines and without buildings. If you want to hike or mtbike you need more information, you want more prominent trails so the map becomes more complicated to read. For Gravel I think in general the OpenMTBMap is more useful. For riding a trekking bike because you frequently have bad surface quality - but you prefer good surface over gravel roads just not huge roads with cars - the VeloMap will usually be better.

OpenMTBMap Wide Layout

 

vs the much simpler VeloMap - both wide layout. Note you can add the buildings and contourlines to the VeloMap.

VeloMap Wide Layout

55 comments to Map Legend and Layouts

  • buche-76

    Nach längerer Zeit habe ich mal wieder meine Karten geupdated. (Europe, English-Non Unicode) Dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass in allen auf meinem Garmin brauchbaren Layouts nun die Unterscheidung G2 / G3 / G4 Track durch rot-grüne bzw. rot-graue Linien dargestellt wird. Früher waren die gestrichelt. Da ich eine rot-grün-Schwäche habe, kann ich das unterwegs auf dem Gerät fast nicht mehr unterscheiden, und auf dem Rechner auch nur noch mit der Bildschirmlupe. Gibts irgendwo noch ein Typ-File, das die alte gestrichelte Darstellung kann, vorzugsweise für Easy oder Hike?

    LG Erik

  • Chris Explore360

    Hi,
    I have uploaded my MTB Sri Lanka map to my Montana 700 but all the tracks asre coloured light grey.
    In Basecamp where I plan the routes they are coloured though.
    What should I do? How can I get this as well on my Montana?
    Thank you for helping out!

    • extremecarver

      The colour information is not stored in the track. I’m not sure if there is a way to change the colour of tracks on the Montana 700. When you activte a track for routing – it will be shown more prominently. On garmin edge devices there is an xml file which can be edited that defines the colours of tracks, routes, overlays, climb pro and so on.

      • Chris Explore360

        This is how it looks on my Montana 700. The (secondary) roads are coloured yellow, but the unpaved (MTB) tracks are all light grey / light grey dotted while in basecamp these are marked red.

        • extremecarver

          Maybe there is now also a contrast mode vs classic map mode on Montana 700? Or what you see is something like climbpro?

          Changing the layout of the map is done differently depending on how you send the Maps to the device. If with map install it should be very similar to Basecamp (not exactly as Basecamp does anti-aliasing which the devices cannot do usually)

    • extremecarver

      ah or you mean tracks inside the map (not gpx tracks). you can change the layout of the maps – here are the different layouts: https://openmtbmap.org/about-2/map-legend/

      • Chris Explore360

        Yes, indeed I mean the colours of tracks on the map.

        I understand I can change it, I just don’t know how?

        Never had this issue before, and I make use of your maps for a while already (although not an expert at all 😉

        Thank you for the great work you do! 🙂

  • NathanaelCBR

    I’m super happy about being able to easily get OSM maps on my Garmin, I had given up years ago messing around with MapWel and all the workflow.

    I’m curious about the trail styling though, I tried the default wide and the hiking style and there’s this weird effect making the trails much wider than they need to be, almost like there’s a drop shadow that my Garmin GPSMAP64 doesn’t properly support?

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    • extremecarver

      what you see in this screenshot is the indication for a mtb route (or a hiking route if that*s the hiking layout). I highlight bicycle, mtb, and hiking/foot routes like this depending on the layout.

      • Capt.Simon

        Same issue. I updated maps after a lot of time and I found this red, really too big red shadows on a Garmin GPSMap 64. In areas with a lot of paths there red fat hilights/shadows make the display so confusing. Since now I am using a Mac I am not able to switch to a different layout. Do you have any hints to switch to a better and more readable layout?

  • calando

    Ich habe gerade nach zwei Jahren oder so mal wieder meine Karten auf meinem Oregon aktualisiert (mit den Premium gmapsupp Downloads wie immer). Dabei ist mir aufgefallen, dass jetzt plötzlich diverse Wald-/Feldwege, die vorher rot/weiß gestrichelt waren, plötzlich rot/grau oder rot/dunkelgrau gestrichelt sind… hat sich da irgendwann mal etwas geändert?
    Ich fand rot gestrichelt mit weiß als Unterbrechung besser als mit grau – die grauen Unterbrechungen der roten Linien sind weit schlechter zu erkennen als weiße. Ich hab schon verschiedene TYP-Files probiert, ist aber offenbar überall genauso. Hat das einen Grund, warum das anders ist?

    • extremecarver

      Ich habe vor gut 1.5 Jahren die Farben leicht geändert – damit der Unterschied der Tracktypes besser erkennbar ist.

      • calando

        Danke für die Antwort!
        Hmm, schade – dann muss ich mir wohl eigene TYP-Files bauen. Siehe Screenshot – bei kurzem Draufschauen sind die roten unterbrochenen Feldwege kaum unterscheidbar. Als zwischen den roten Liniensegmenten weiße Unterbrechungen waren, war das sofort sichbar, ob es nun ein G2 Trk oder ein G3 Trk war (oder gepunktet dann G4 Trk usw).

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        • extremecarver

          Je nach GPS Gerät hat der alte Linienstil mit einer Linie außen und weiß innen bei Drehung gröbere Probleme gemacht (bei Grade 4/5 genutzt) – und die Linien sind quasi verschwunden. Daher habe ich das neue Layout eingesetzt. Dazu ist es konsistenter bezüglich sac_scale und mtb:scale Wegen.

    • extremecarver

      Das Problem war zuvor das tracktype = grade 4/5 nicht gut unterscheidbar waren. Jetzt ist am Gerät der Unterschied leichter erkannbar – aber ja die Wege an sich nicht ganz so gut zu erkennen. Da gebe ich dir recht. Ist halt immer ein Kompromiss.

  • ronaldlamb

    Hallo, bei meiner Karte von Belgien finde ich kein “Thin” Layout. Kannst du mir helfen ?

  • ronaldlamb

    Hi, danke für den Hinweis, ich versuchs mal. Muss nun die Karten nochmal downloaden. Hier tut sich bei mir die Frage auf ob ich Non Unicode Karten oder Unicode Karten laden soll.Hab das nicht so richtig verstanden…

  • ronaldlamb

    Hallo Felix,
    Haber gerade auf meinem neuen MacBook mehrere Karten installiert. Nun stelle ich fest das viele Linien von Fusswegen und Radwegen sehr dick ausfallen. Hab beim Installieren nicht den mehr den Schritt gefunden wo man die Karten auf “Thin” konfiguriert. Ging das früher mal oder mach ich da was falsch ? Beste Grüße von Wilfred (ronaldlamb)

  • marbru

    Servus,
    vielleicht hat jemand einen Tip für mich.
    Ich arbeite mit Basecamp 4.7.4 auf Windows.
    Über die Tooltips erhält man (vor allem bei hinterlegten Routen) überwiegend drei mal den Routennamen, aber keine Weginfos. (Die Legende kann ich mir im Detail nicht merken.)
    Ganz selten erscheint eine 4. Zeile (siehe Beispiel).
    Gibt’s eine Möglichkeit in Basecamp Wegeigenschaften zu bekommen? (Ich arbeite jetzt schon jahrelang mit Basecamp und MtB-Map, das war doch nicht schon immer so, oder?)
    Martin

    • extremecarver

      Da ist seit einiger Zeit ein Bug in der Namensnennung – ich muss mal schauen woran der liegt. Betrifft Wege mit Routen aber nicht Wege ohne Routen. Ich hab noch nicht rausgefunden wo da der Bug liegt – es betrifft nur Wege mit Routen – aber nicht alle.

    • extremecarver

      Ich habe es jetzt korrigiert – aktuell nur Italien – aber zum nächsten Update ist es dann in allen Ländern korrigiert. Der Fehler war ziemlich arglistig und hat mich einige Stunden zum beheben gekostet.

    • extremecarver

      Mit dem morgigen Update ist es dann endgültig korrigiert – war ein Haufen Arbeit das vernünftig zu optimieren – ich hatte da mal angefangen und es dann nie fertig gebracht.

  • dtaber

    You might want to update this Map Legend documentation to reflect the recent style changes. And maybe point out that you can download the “country” Legend for both velo and omtb maps, and then by varying the .typ file selection see all possible legend scenarios. And about those new lower contrast layouts: while they are more pleasing to the eye, the lack of contrast between primary and secondary highways is a major annoyance. I always liked how the old style primaries were a nice distinct red, because it is the primaries that require the most attention in planning routes. Primaries can vary from pleasant cycling roads in remote areas to terrifying bowling alleys of high speed trucks and zero-width shoulder in others. So having them red for easy, at-a-glance identification was great.

  • joh

    Hallo, was bedeuten denn diese Zahlen, die in manchen Gegenden gehäuft auf der Karte zu finden sind? Ich konnte es bis jetzt nicht herausfinden.

  • vtec

    Hallo Felix,

    ich war diese Woche in der Ramsau am Dachstein unterwegs und hatte das erste Mal ein GPSmap 66s (ähnliches Display wie Oregon mit 240×400 auf 3″) mit der OpenMTB im Hiking-Stil mit dabei. Was mir aufgefallen ist, dass die Wege dicke schwarz gerasterte Streifen daneben haben. Die brauche ich eigentlich nicht und machen die Karte, wenn ich zur Übersicht für längere Routen, um etwa alternative Wege zu suchen, herauszoome, eher unübersichtlich. Weiters sind Klettersteige, die auch sehr wichtig für mich sind, im Hiking-Stil sehr ähnlich wie die normalen Wanderwege dargestellt und nicht in einer anderen Farbe (rosa im Fall von Desktop/Wide). Ist es für den Hiking-Stil möglich, die schwarzen Rasterungen neben den Wanderwegen zu entfernen oder zumindest dünner zu machen und Klettersteige in einer anderen Farbe bzw. prominenter darzustellen? Der Desktop-Stil oder der Wide-Stil ohne die MTB-Elemente würden sehr gut passen. Anbei der gleiche Kartenausschnitt aus BaseCamp in den unterschiedlichen Stilen zur Verdeutlichung. Vielen Dank und liebe Grüße, Marcus

    • extremecarver

      Die schwarzen Streifen sind Wanderrouten – die sind für viele Personen sehr wichtig. Die dünnen braunen “streifen” sind MTB Routen.
      Ja – die Klettersteige sollte ich ändern – da hast du Recht. Muss ich mal analysieren was da ist. Evtl haben die zusätzlich zum Via Feratta Scale auch noch eine Sac_Scale und sind daher so abgebildet (dann muss ich da eine Ausnahme machen – von der Ausnahme sozusagen).

  • Mig369

    Hi extremecarver,

    I just downloaded the newest Europe-Map (non-unicode). Now there is an Area on the Map with new Symbols, which were new to me (see Attachement).
    Via Openstreetmap.org I came to the conclusion, thats mayby information:guidepost.

    Now I was wondering, if these knots are wrong in OSM or if its some issue with the openMTBMap, because the Symbols look a bit messy on the Map. As you can see they are visible till 1.5km-Zoom and make this fuzzy look…
    Here’s one of the nodes as example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8207087273

    kind regards and happy easter,
    Mig369

    • extremecarver

      I’m gonna check this. Should not happen this way – looks like the symbol for bicycle knot points in NL.

    • extremecarver

      Well I checked it now – the problem here IMHO is wrong tagging.
      https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lcn_ref

      Are these actually lcn_ref node points? As a quick measure I just added a rule to delete all lcn_ref & network_type=destination (don’t know what the heck that kind of network type is – as it’s not documented).

      Plus in general I’ve taken out all those nodes from resolution 21 (1000/1500m) and only start showing them from resolution 22 (700m) instead. Plus for guidepost & mtb=yes/bicycle=yes I’ve changed the symbol to be less obvious. I don’t think they need to be that visible (and degraded from 23 to 24, so 200m instead of 300m).

    • extremecarver

      here is another one of these: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/275914838

      Not sure how to filter that one out – network:type=node_network

    • Mig369

      Danke für die schnelle Antwort! (Hab erst nicht geblickt, dass man auch auf Deutsch schreiben kann 😉 )
      Ich stecke in OSM allerdings nicht so tief drin, wenns um Relations und Netzwerke geht. Mir scheint das Tagging auf Basis dieser Anleitung gemacht worden zu sein.
      https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/Fahrradrouten_kartieren#Fahrradknotenpunktnetzwerk
      Gleichzeitig scheint aber lcn_ref ja veraltet und durch die Relations abgelöst worden zu sein.

      Ich habe den Ersteller der Nodes mal dazu angeschrieben, vielleicht kann er etwas dazu sagen.

      • Mig369

        Habe schon Rückmeldung vom Ersteller Karthoo erhalten:

        “Hallo Mig,

        Da habe ich ein neues Tagging für das MTB-Netz Hornisgrinde-Ortenau ausprobiert, da das Netz vorher in Form von nicht-existierenden Rundwegen und schrecklichen Sammelrelationen gemappt war. Zunächst hatte ich an den Routen und Knotenpunkten network:type=node_network getaggt, was ich aber mittlerweile geändert habe, da das nicht ganz korrekt ist. Ich habe dann network:type=destination angefügt, was noch nicht dokumentiert ist. An manchen Knoten, an denen auch Knotenpunkte des Wanderwegenetzes des SWV sind, ist weiterhin network:type=node_network getaggt, also bitte nicht einfach löschen.”

        Vielleicht hilft das ja zum Verständnis.

        • extremecarver

          Bitte schreib ihm, dass er den Tag lcn_ref entfernen soll, wenn es kein echter Knotenpunkt mit Nummer ist. Und Routen müssen einfach, auch wenn es kompliziert ist – als Relationen eingetragen werden. Und für Wanderweg Relationen gilt das genauso. Die Punkte so sind im Tagging nicht mit echten Knotenpunkten unterscheidbar – daher bitte korrigieren. Man kann Sachen etwas anders taggen – aber dann muss es klar unterscheidbar sein von bestehenden Tagging Schemata – und dass ohne neue Tags/Keys zu erfinden. Wenn dort natürlich echte Knotenpunkte sind – mit Schild auf dem die Nummer klar erkennbar ist von weitem (keine Schildnumer oder Nummer die man nur aus 1m Abstand entziffern kann) – dann ist das Tagging korrekt. Aber das scheint hier ja nicht der Fall zu sein außer ich irre mich.

          Zumindest anhand dieser Auflistung gibt es in Bayern ja keine echten Knotenpunkte: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knotenpunktbezogene_Wegweisung
          Der Tag lcn_ref darf aber nur dafür verwendet werden.

        • extremecarver

          Ich bin jetzt etwas unsicher – es gibt in einem Teil von Baden Württemberg inzwischen wirklich ein Knotenpunktsystem – Knoten 1-70, aber ich bin ziemlich sicher eben nicht dort wo er die Knoten eingetragen hat, was ja auch in Bayern ist.
          Das Problem dabei – wer / wieso auch immer hat beschlossen diese Routen als rcn einzutragen – was sie meiner Meinung nach definitiv nicht sind. Ich hab die jetzt zu lcn degradiert – was aber ziemlich kompliziert war.

  • maiksen

    I am using the maps also for hiking. I was wondering if it is possible to include way markers (Wegmarkierungen) like a red diamond or red circle in the layout?

    • extremecarver

      Hi Maiksen – no I cannot include them. It would need to many line types – but there aren’t than many free line types. And including them as a POI I find it not optimal either. I don’t feel Garmin map format is made for it.

  • AK77

    [edit] – die Darstellung liegt wohl daran, dass bei “fine_gravel” die graue Linie vom Radweg dargestellt wird, bei “compacted” das ursprünglich gewohnte braun.

  • AK77

    sieht so aus als wären die Linien für cycleway and footway durcheinander geraten. Designated footway mit cycling=yes wird bei mir mit grauer, unterbrochener Linie dargestellt. Vorher war’s irgendwie braun, soweit ich mich erinnere.

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